1963 John Deere 1020 Manual
My operator's manual says i should use John Deere type 303 special purpose oil for the transmission and hydraulic system in my JD 3020. Is this something i can get only from a JD dealer or would i find something equivalent at a farm store like Orscheln's or Farm and Home? Thanks for your help.No, there is absolutely NO need to buy the Deere branded oil. Now, if you've got money to burn, and you're anxious to spend over $60 per 5 gallon pail, instead of $35-$40 for non-Deere branded oil with the same specs. That is your choice.
John Deere doesn't sell type 303 oil any more. I worked for Deere dealers dating back to the 1960s. As I recall, 303 oil got dropped by Deere early 1970s.
It was superceded by HyGuard. That is a Deere-branded combo trans/hydraulic oil that has more additives then 303 oil, and also surpasses old Deere specs J24C, J21A,. Caterpillar TO2, Kubota UDT, Oliver UDT, Case-IH MS-1207, MS-1209, MS-1210, MS-1, Ford-New Holland ESN-M2C41-B, M2C134-D, M2C48-B, M2C48-C, M2C159-B/C, 159B/C, M2C86-B, FNHA-2-C-200, FNHA-2-C-201 etc. Most other brands meet those same specs and often more. 303 oil met the needs for your 3020 well enough, IF it has a SynchroRange trans and NOT a Powershift.
You can still buy 303 oil for $25 per 5 gallon pail at places like Tractor Supply. Few companies sell 303 anymore because it does not have the wet-clutch additives required for many newer tractors. I was a mechanic and service manager for several Deere shops. I have NEVER known of any issues with other brands of combo trans/hydraulic oils when they claimed to be 'Hyguard' equivalent. Note, I've never seen a brand for sale yet, that wasn't.
I just changed all the oil in my Deere 300B backhoe/loader. Traveller brand combo oil at Tractor Supply was $38 per 5 gallon pail. Deere wanted $62. That Traveller brand is certified to meet all the specs of the Deere HyGuard and is much cheaper. I've got it in my Deere 1020, 300B, 1010, and 2020. Also got it in my Case 580CK.
All work just fine. Note if you DO want to throw away extra money on Deere branded 'Hyguard', note that it is too thick for use at below zero temps. In fact, it's often to thick for temps below 20F. Deere sells a 'winter-grade 10W HyGuard for cold winter use. I'm not intentionally trying to insult anybody. To claim that only oil with a Deere brand name on it will work in a Deere tractor - is rediculous. If it were true, one might wonder how come Case, IH, Caterpillar,Komatsu, MF, etc.
All work without using the Deere stuff? AMSOIL Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic/Transmission Oil - SAE 5W-30 (ATH) Retail Price (USD): $8.35/Quart or $156.30/5 Gallon Pail PRODUCT DESCRIPTION - Product Code: ATHQT-EA AMSOIL Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic/Transmission Oil (ATH) is an all-weather Universal Tractor Transmission Oil (UTTO) engineered to meet the tough demands of heavy-duty, hydraulic-powered farm and commercial equipment.
Its unique formulation of synthetic base stocks and additives effectively reduces wear, resists heat, protects against rust and extends fluid and equipment service life. Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic/Transmission Oil is recommended for extended oil drains based on oil analysis. SPECIFICATIONS AMSOIL Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic/Transmission Oil is recommended for applications that require any of the listed specifications:. John Deere – J20C, J20D (winter grade), J20A/B, J14B, JD 303, J21A INSTALLATION. AMSOIL Hydraulic/Transmission Oil is fully compatible with conventional tractor hydraulic/transmission oils. To install AMSOIL Hydraulic/Transmission Oil in a hydraulic system, drain the existing hydraulic/transmission oil, change fi lters and install AMSOIL Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic/Transmission Oil.
I JUST CHANGED THE TRANSMISSION / hYDRAULIC fluid in the 1963 John Deere 4010 Diesel Syncro transmission. I used a John Deere filter and cleaned the screen behind the square plug. When I started it after adding 10 gallons, it was squealing and the 3 point was jerky. I shut it off and added another gallon to top it off.
It is still noisy and the 3 point is jerky. I used Amsoil Tractor Hydraulic Transmission oil - I had it here - It's what I have always used in my 1975 Ford Backhoe. Is there anything I did wrong? Is there anything more to changing the hydraulic fluid than dumping it, changing the filter, cleaning the screen and refilling?
:: Author Message boyle78 New User Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 10 Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:33 pm Post subject: 1963 1010 Just purchased a 1963 1010 with serial number 'T15859T' on the motor plate. I haven't been able to find much info so far on this exact unit, any help would be appreciated. Looking for operating and service manuals as well! Buickanddeere Tractor Guru Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 32105 Location: in front of computer Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 1010. Sorry, wish we had some good news for you. At least you did not purchase a 2010. I wish you had checked here before handing the money over.What will this tractor be used for?
If it is a gas 1010 not a diesel, with time, money, skill and patience. A gas 1010 can be made to function. If it is a diesel, you just purchased the 3rd most hated John Deere of all time.
1-800-522-7338 for manuals. Parts book is free online at the John Deere site. Some components will swap with the 420 and 430. Boyle78 New User Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 10 Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 Well that?s a bit of a disappointment lol. I did get the diesel motor and know she doesn?t like to start in the cold. Plan on using it to work around the small farm and clear some land. Old Tractor Guru Joined: 12 Mar 2000 Posts: 76737 Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 Sorry but you now have one of the worst 2 JD tractor ever made.
Parts are hard o find for them and if and when you do they will cost you half again as much for them as other tractors. As for hard starting when cold well that is common for most any diesel engine.
I have a 1010 parts tractor and the reason it is a parts tractor is because of the cost of parts it just was not worth the $$ to fix JDEM Tractor Expert Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 1751 Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 It is not a bad engine. Just tough to find parts for. 1010 diesel starts a lot better in the cold when the fuel-primer is intact and working. If missing, it is still available new aftermarket. Of course, the glow plugs have to work too since it is one of the few indirect diesels Deere ever made. Sounds like your's needs the early style glow-plugs with the 5/8' hex?
Available aftermarket. WAP sells them as part # 6A467G011 I have a 1960 1010 and love it, but it is a crawler. My main gripes with a 1010 wheel tractor are lack of aftermarket parts support and a lousy wheel brake system (not a Deere design).
JDEM Tractor Expert Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 1751 Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 # 15859 is not much newer then my 1960. Ought to be a 1961, not a 1963 according to my charts. Boyle78 New User Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 10 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:33 am Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 Thanks for the info!
I?m not too discouraged about the purchase since it?s a hell of a lot cheaper than anything new and it?ll only be used around the small farm we have (clearing stumps and rocks) I?m pretty mechanicaly inclided, but will probably be reaching out for more information. MSD Tractor Expert Joined: 15 Jun 2009 Posts: 2550 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:30 am Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 I've got a 1010 diesel. Overhauled 2 of them about 5 years ago.
Didn't have any trouble finding parts. Running good yet today with no problems. Mnethercutt Regular Joined: 01 Nov 2016 Posts: 191 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:53 am Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 On the plus side if you ever have to do a rebuild the Diesel sleeve plate is half as expensive as the gas, and you can get one from a 2010 gas or diesel. 1010 gas deck only fits 1010 gas.
Nails1 Regular Joined: 23 Mar 2015 Posts: 56 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 You could do worse than a 1010 diesel. Like my 1010 W diesel. Buickanddeere Tractor Guru Joined: 31 May 2003 Posts: 32105 Location: in front of computer Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:57 am Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 This would be the time to get rid of it before pouring money into a bottomless pit. JDEM Tractor Expert Joined: 18 Mar 2016 Posts: 1751 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:57 am Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 RE: ' you can get one from a 2010 gas or diesel. 1010 gas deck only fits 1010 gas' Nope. 1010 diesel and 2010 gas share the same sleeve-deck. NOT a 2010 diesel.
Hotflashjr Tractor Expert Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 2685 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:59 am Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 I have a 1010 gas, right around yours in age. Mine is a RS which is the cultivating built tractor. I heard many of the things you are hearing now about it being terrible. My experience owning it in a year in a half is that I kinda like the little thing. I have done a bunch maintenance and smaller fixes on mine and not had any real trouble finding parts. I use the tractor for cultivating primarily but it has found a home on our 5 foot snowblower, plowed a few acres with a JD 415 2 bottom plow, completed some discing and has done a bunch of other general chores.
For our smaller size operation it is a good little tractor. We also own a JD 1020 gas which yes is an even better utility tractor than the 1010. The tractor is easy to work on, still fairly simple in design when thinking of the MT I had versus the 1020, 2355, etc. It is also light enough to move with an implement in tow that my Chevy 1500 can pull it on the small equipment trailer where as getting into the 1020 and then the 2355 need to get onto the bigger trailer and the diesel truck. Overall I do not regret buying the tractor.
It has done what I expected of it to this point, not expecting the world of it, and has found a spot in on our operation. I should also say the tractor was in decent working/running shape when I bought it. If it was a basket case I am sure my experience would have been different. Boyle78 New User Joined: 18 Feb 2018 Posts: 10 Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:53 am Post subject: Re: 1963 1010 MSD, I tried to PM you with questions.
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